Hello World:
As I was discussing in the last post about killing in self-defense, they do not have the death penalty in Norway. However, I believe it would have been better if someone, there, would have killed that shooter, before he bombed and shot up all those innocent and decent people. It would be better to have those victims alive instead of him.
This current world is full of a lot of evil and vile people, and it is not all about religion. I believe GOD WILL DEFINITELY EXCUSE OR FORGIVE A CHRISTIAN WHO KILLED SOMEONE IN SELF-DEFENSE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT WAS LEGAL OR NOT.
I believe this, which is different from the laws in several countries, but if you kill someone, who cold-bloodedly killed your wife or mother, or 5 guys jumped on you in the parking lot and you killed them, or someone was trying to rape you and you killed the guy, or someone raped you and got away, and you or your brother or your father or your husband found the person some time later, and killed the person, YOU AND YOUR DEFENDANTS SHOULD NOT BE ARRESTED AND SHOULD NOT SERVE NO JAIL TIME; AND I DO MEAN ABSOLUTELY NO JAIL TIME!!!
YES, you can kill the person and still forgive them. The thing that a lot of people, including Christians miss, is that when you have been wronged by someone, or someone has wronged another person, WITHOUT any good reason, like in those examples given above, you or the person wronged should forgive the person, but that person still has to pay up.
I believe the offending persons should pay up, not necessarily by the law, or by the law enforcement finding out, and you or the person who has been wronged should not pay anything. Also, too, you DO NOT have to solve EVERY problem by killing, but if you did as again, in those examples above, you should be justified and are forgiven by God.
You also do not have to go and report everything or anything you did, to law enforcement or say anything to anybody. In Exodus Chapter 2: Verses 11-12, Moses killed an Egyptian for good reason, because the Egyptian was beating a Hebrew, and they had enslaved the Hebrews or Jewish people; and had been already beating and killing Hebrews for some time. Moses NEVER was punished by God for that JUSTIFIED killing.
No one can find for me ANY scripture that shows that God punished Moses for that killing or that shows that God was even slightly displeased or angry about it. In fact, God went on to choose and use Moses, IN MINISTRY, as one of the greatest men of God to EVER walk the earth.
When Pharaoh found out what Moses had done, he did not like it, and wanted to get Moses. Of course, it was okay with pharaoh, for his boys(slang) or Egyptian men to whip up on, enslave and kill Hebrews; but not okay when the tables were turned! The good thing is that, unlike the Ten Commandments movie, Moses fled from Pharaoh; and by God's leading, came back and defeated Pharaoh and the Egyptian army and freed the Hebrew people.
Getting back to discussing the killings in Norway, by that supposed Christian, who also claims he is a conservative who is against the spread of Islam and who is also anti-liberal; I want to mention that I am always suspicious of ANY CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE RIGHT-WING AGENDAS, for the very reasons of what happened in Norway. Several Christians have come out, and said they do not share that man's beliefs, but I think if they are conservative, there is a strong possibility they do.
They just may not go out and cold-bloodedly kill people at random like he did, but they can do other things to hurt people, like use the system to disfranchise people from jobs, promotion, housing and education and other economic and social avenues. From my research, many of these Christian conservative groups tend to be ALL white, anti-Jew, anti-black, anti-women, anti-poor and anti-immigration; and that is not just from Norway, but in other countries.
These ultra-conservative Christians are extremely closed minded. It seems like the ONLY sins that they tend to know how to preach about involves sex, which IS AN EXTREMELY BAD, OR UNSKILLED OR BELOW LEVEL TYPE OF PREACHING.
I was researching some reports and there are several racist organizations, world-wide, who talk about advancing ONLY the WHITE RACE, and that ALL other races are mud and need to rot away. They look at those Black people in Somalia dying of starvation, and do NOT see them as equal human beings, but again much lesser, like mud and believe they should not be helped, but that they should die off. I have some more world affairs to get to in the next post.