Hello World:
Picking up from what I was saying last time about a prophet judging the things of God and what is right and wrong. Again, please look at the recent posts in this series, as I have referenced scriptures in those that are relevant to this post here.
A prophet judges more than he or she prophesies or tell the future or tell of a future event. In fact, a prophet does NOT necessarily prophesy about the future every week, every month or on a specific time-table. A prophet DOES NOT prophesy or have a prophecy to give, about any future anything, just because you tell him or her to prophesy on your television program or meeting. You as a man or woman DOES NOT tell a prophet to prophesy on the spot, NOR at any time. That is called PROPHE-LYING or prophelying.
A TRUE prophet of God does not go around prophelying because someone or some preacher or minister ask them for a prophecy. Maybe the Lord did not tell them anything at that moment, or maybe he told them something not to say. And if the prophet DOES NOT have anything to say or no prophecy to give at that time, then THAT IS OKAY and fine. He or she will tell you when they heard from God, NOT you telling them. So, NO human person dictates when a prophet prophesies. A TRUE prophet will prophesy when God wants him or her to, when the Spirit of God moves them to prophesy, again, NOT anybody else.
Also too, a prophet does not look for people to judge, but looks to hear from God. In other words, a prophet does not walk around always finding faults with people, and does not look to condemn folks over and over. He or she will just speak what the Lord tells him or her to speak. If people are doing the right things as required by God, then there is nothing wrong, and nothing bad or no warning needs to be said.
I want to emphasize here, that a person CAN ALSO JUDGE AND SAY SOMETHING GOOD ABOUT ANOTHER PERSON. I, believe in encouraging people too. Giving people confidence that they can do something good. Now again, you do NOT want to lie to the person. You want to tell the truth, especially if they ask you; but you do NOT want to be cruel about it. I believe in helping people get better and become successful in good things. So, judging someone is NOT always bad. You really have to know how to be led by the Spirit of God. Remember what Jesus said about hearing from God and speaking. The prophet hears what God says and speaks what God tells him to speak. God will speak and show things, and only things that are necessary to know, about people to the prophet.
Every church may not have a prophet. That is okay; because God can, temporarily, use some person in the church in the prophetic office. The other offices of the five-fold ministry that I talked about in the last post, can also hear from God and judge things too. With the other offices it is not so much the office as it is the person, as to their spiritual level in God. Again, though, judging the things of God to determine if things are right, or the way God wants things is a main function of the prophet.
Again, God will choose and speak to specific people, and not everybody, but specific people to judge things going on in the world and inside the church. Therefore, IT MAKES NO SENSE TO USE BLANKET STATEMENTS SAYING WE SHOULD NOT JUDGE! It depends on who WE are that is talked about. Because SOME OF WE ARE CHOSEN AND SENT OF GOD!
Also, if you say that no one should judge, then basically, you are saying that people can do absolutely whatever they want to do, without consequences to them and other people. There would be no accountability for nothing and to no one. There would be no right or wrong way to things, just do as you please with anything or anyone. Kill that person, spit on that person, fornicate all over the place, break all the laws and commandments, because laws and commandments would be irrelevant. Go over there and curse out person A, and turn around and stab person B, and take person B's money. Leave your trash or garbage for the next person C to clean up; and shhhhhh don't judge, because the Bible says to judge not that ye be not judged. WRONG!!!!!! Oh, but Paul said, we should not judge one another. WRONG!!!!!!.
So, again, it can be seen just how stupid that sounds, when people say we should not judge. Therefore, A PERSON OR PEOPLE HAVE NO RIGHT TO QUOTE ANY SCRIPTURE, IF THEY ARE DEEP IN SIN, RUNNING THE STREETS WITH PEOPLE WHO STEAL AND BOTHER OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY. THEY ARE NOT IN A PRAYER CLOSET SEEKING GOD'S FACE, AND THEY HAVE GOTTEN AWAY FROM GOD. SO, SUCH A PERSON OR PEOPLE NEED TO JUST SHUT UP WITH THE SCRIPTURES!!!!!
In regards to the church, there are several problems. There are many preachers who were given the microphone, who SHOULD NOT have it. Also, just because you are or were a celebrity or famous athlete, and have a story of crime and drugs that God has delivered you from DOES NOT mean that you know the things of God and are chosen of God to preach TO THE CHURCH. You can testify about your story, but to preach and teach you must wait in line for God. I will talk about the proper order of things in the church TWO posts from this one, today. Preach to people outside the church or who are not in the church, YES; but again, inside the church to a congregation, NOT so fast.
I have seen several so-called preachers, who have no heart to help people. They are selfish and serve only themselves. They have no wisdom, and continuously make mistakes in their life with their decisions. There was this one guy who said he was a preacher, and I noticed when he went into a room, he would not hold the door open for the next person coming right behind him. He also cheated and took short-cuts at work, and passed off his duties to someone else.
He would take people's things, that the other person was using, without asking permission. He was very rude, selfish and inconsiderate. Jesus said, he that is greatest among you, is servant of all; scripture references, St. Matthew Chapter 20: Verses 26-27; and Chapter 23: Verse 11. However, what I have seen from some preachers is that they do the opposite of what Jesus said. They want everybody to serve them. In the next post, I want to mention some more information in regards to a true prophet and true prophets judging.
Wednesday, November 30, 2011
Monday, November 28, 2011
Judge Not That Ye Be Not Judged?-Part H
Hello World:
Some preachers have said that preachers and Christian believers should not judge another church or what other churches are doing. Now when those preachers said that, they made a blanket general statement. In other words, the way they put it, regardless of whatever the church may be doing right or very wrong, they should not be judged by other believers. I disagree with all of that.
One thing, I want to put in here is that there is something called the Judgement Seat Of Christ. There are scriptures where the Apostle Paul mentions that Christian believers will be judged at the Judgement Seat Of Christ. Now that is very important. I will mention a few things now about the Judgement Seat Of Christ and the great white throne of judgement; and then I will mention them both again later on, as I need to discuss something else about hell. The Judgement Seat Of Christ is actually an event for born-again, raptured believers only.
It is believed that The Judgement Seat Of Christ will take place after the Rapture. It is DIFFERENT from the Great White Throne Of Judgement, which will take place after the millennium or thousand year reign of Christ on earth. I will present scriptures on both judgement events soon.
However, it is important that a FEW CHOSEN men and women OF GOD are sent by God to judge things pertaining to the church, or churches, and things pertaining to all believers in the kingdom of God now. That is not for every believing Christian to do that judging. Every believing Christian who is living righteous DO have authority to judge the unrighteous and the secular society. However, again, pertaining to the church and kingdom of God, God will and HAS CHOSEN A FEW, and given authority to a FEW to judge those things.
Scripture Reference 1 Peter Chapter 4: Verse 17; "For the time is come that judgement must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?"
In addition to that above scripture, I ask everybody to refer back to the scriptures from 1 Corinthians Chapter 2: Verses 11 through 16, that I mentioned in a earlier post in this series.
Those scriptures are also relative to what I am saying here today. You can not, or no person can rule out people chosen of God and sent forth to judge things in the church and things outside the church in the secular world.
Several of those chosen and sent of God were called Judges and Prophets in the Old Testament of the Bible. Today, they do not have to be, but quite often, especially involving the church they would be or can be considered Prophets. If people say that no one should judge or you can not judge, they are muzzling and eliminating a major part of the five-fold ministry of the church; which is Apostles, Prophets, Evangelist, Pastors, and Teachers.
Scripture Refrence Ephesians Chapter 4: Verse 11; "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;"
Verse 12; "For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:"
I talked about the role and duties of prophets before, and I mentioned that prophets do not only tell or predict or prophesy about the future, like people think or what they have been known to do, but prophets also go about judging all things; especially the things of God. They usually are the ones who fill the role that Paul mentioned in the scripture from 1 Corinthians Chapter 2: Verse 15. That is why I ask everybody to refer back to those scriptures from the recent post.
That is one of the major things that a prophet does. He is constantly being in tuned with the will of God and the spirit of God, and is making sure that the things of God and people of God are in proper order. Prophets are making sure that things are being done right according to how God wants things done. If things are not right, it is up to the prophet, when he or she hears from God on what to say or do, to be obedient to God, and say something or make sure something is done to correct the person or situation. There is more I need to go into, so I will return very soon.
Some preachers have said that preachers and Christian believers should not judge another church or what other churches are doing. Now when those preachers said that, they made a blanket general statement. In other words, the way they put it, regardless of whatever the church may be doing right or very wrong, they should not be judged by other believers. I disagree with all of that.
One thing, I want to put in here is that there is something called the Judgement Seat Of Christ. There are scriptures where the Apostle Paul mentions that Christian believers will be judged at the Judgement Seat Of Christ. Now that is very important. I will mention a few things now about the Judgement Seat Of Christ and the great white throne of judgement; and then I will mention them both again later on, as I need to discuss something else about hell. The Judgement Seat Of Christ is actually an event for born-again, raptured believers only.
It is believed that The Judgement Seat Of Christ will take place after the Rapture. It is DIFFERENT from the Great White Throne Of Judgement, which will take place after the millennium or thousand year reign of Christ on earth. I will present scriptures on both judgement events soon.
However, it is important that a FEW CHOSEN men and women OF GOD are sent by God to judge things pertaining to the church, or churches, and things pertaining to all believers in the kingdom of God now. That is not for every believing Christian to do that judging. Every believing Christian who is living righteous DO have authority to judge the unrighteous and the secular society. However, again, pertaining to the church and kingdom of God, God will and HAS CHOSEN A FEW, and given authority to a FEW to judge those things.
Scripture Reference 1 Peter Chapter 4: Verse 17; "For the time is come that judgement must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?"
In addition to that above scripture, I ask everybody to refer back to the scriptures from 1 Corinthians Chapter 2: Verses 11 through 16, that I mentioned in a earlier post in this series.
Those scriptures are also relative to what I am saying here today. You can not, or no person can rule out people chosen of God and sent forth to judge things in the church and things outside the church in the secular world.
Several of those chosen and sent of God were called Judges and Prophets in the Old Testament of the Bible. Today, they do not have to be, but quite often, especially involving the church they would be or can be considered Prophets. If people say that no one should judge or you can not judge, they are muzzling and eliminating a major part of the five-fold ministry of the church; which is Apostles, Prophets, Evangelist, Pastors, and Teachers.
Scripture Refrence Ephesians Chapter 4: Verse 11; "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;"
Verse 12; "For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:"
I talked about the role and duties of prophets before, and I mentioned that prophets do not only tell or predict or prophesy about the future, like people think or what they have been known to do, but prophets also go about judging all things; especially the things of God. They usually are the ones who fill the role that Paul mentioned in the scripture from 1 Corinthians Chapter 2: Verse 15. That is why I ask everybody to refer back to those scriptures from the recent post.
That is one of the major things that a prophet does. He is constantly being in tuned with the will of God and the spirit of God, and is making sure that the things of God and people of God are in proper order. Prophets are making sure that things are being done right according to how God wants things done. If things are not right, it is up to the prophet, when he or she hears from God on what to say or do, to be obedient to God, and say something or make sure something is done to correct the person or situation. There is more I need to go into, so I will return very soon.
Friday, November 25, 2011
Judge Not That Ye Be Not Judged?-Part G
Hello World:
In the previous post, I mentioned I would say more about several preachers behavior, here in this post, that I have observed and from what the Lord showed me. However, instead, I will say more in details about that in another post coming up soon. This is a very important topic series, and I felt led of the Lord to say if you are involved with a Christian church, as a minister, leader or member, you may want to read all these posts in this judging series.
Also, I want to add in here for the record something about the edits I added back in part D. Let me say that in mentioning those three times in the scriptures or Bible where I believe the Apostle Paul was wrong, that is NOT to take away from Paul being a quality, chosen man of God, because he was.
I also believe that the Apostle Paul and Peter and the rest of the Biblical patriarches, prominent Apostles and teachers would agree with me, with what I am saying here in this series. Now, they may not, however, I am VERY confident that, again, they would agree with what I am saying; and that I am in line with the MEANING and SPIRIT of God's word.
Scripture Reference Romans Chapter 2: Verse 1; "Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou judgest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same thing."
I want to mention again, that if a person is led to judge or to correct someone, he or she should not be guilty of doing the same thing, or like Jesus said in St. Matthew 7, they must be able to meet that measurement or standard by which they judge the other person. That does not mean that the person judging is perfect. It does mean that God needs to speak through somebody, to get the person's attention before you burn in hell. ALSO even if that person speaking of God is not perfect, God, by speaking to them or showing them things is showing that HE is pleased with their spiritual walk and they are doing something right. He, God, TRUST THEM, more than He trust other people, with information and to speak or to deliver information. So, do NOT kill the messenger of God.
Another excuse that EX-preacher said, when I was talking to him, is that I do not know his heart and you can not judge a person's heart by what they do. That is NOT true. You can know a person's heart; not in your own power, but by the Spirit of God revealing the person's heart and motives to you.
I have heard other people, who are plain sinners, complain about the same thing, that the preacher has no right to speak to them and judge them, because the preacher does not know them. Well, the preacher may not know them, but God knows them, and if God reveals to the preacher what you ate last night, or that you stole from your children back on Thurday evening, then the preacher by the Spirit of God, knows what you did.
If God tells the preacher, just using an example, that you need to love your children, and stop mistreating them or you will die and go to hell tonight, then the preacher then knows that about you. So, the preacher in himself does not know you, but God will show and tell the preacher things about you, and then the preacher will know things about you, about what kind of person you are and your heart. That is very easy for God to do. God will reveal things about you to him, for him to tell you to straighten up, because you think you are getting away with hurting people, but God sees it and you will answer to God to be punished.
1 Corinthians Chapter 2: Verse 11; "For what man knoweth the things of man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God."
Verse 12; "Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God."
Verse 13; "Which things also we speak, not in words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual."
Verse 14; "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
Verse 15; "BUT HE THAT IS SPIRITUAL JUDGETH ALL THINGS, YET HE HIMSELF IS JUDGED OF NO MAN."
Verse 16; "For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
I want to also present some scriptures here from Ezekiel.
Scripture reference Ezekiel Chapter 3: Verse 15; " Then I came to them of the capitivity at Telabib, that dwelt by the river of Chebar, and I sat where they sat, and remained there astonished among them seven days."
Verse 16; "And it came to pass at the end of the seven days, that the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,"
Verse 17; "Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore HEAR THE WORD AT MY MOUTH, AND GIVE THEM WARNING FROM ME!"
Verse 18; "When I say unto the wicked, thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand."
Verse 19; "Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul."
Verse 20; "Again, when a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thy hand."
Verse 21; "Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul."
I want to return and discuss judging churches.
In the previous post, I mentioned I would say more about several preachers behavior, here in this post, that I have observed and from what the Lord showed me. However, instead, I will say more in details about that in another post coming up soon. This is a very important topic series, and I felt led of the Lord to say if you are involved with a Christian church, as a minister, leader or member, you may want to read all these posts in this judging series.
Also, I want to add in here for the record something about the edits I added back in part D. Let me say that in mentioning those three times in the scriptures or Bible where I believe the Apostle Paul was wrong, that is NOT to take away from Paul being a quality, chosen man of God, because he was.
I also believe that the Apostle Paul and Peter and the rest of the Biblical patriarches, prominent Apostles and teachers would agree with me, with what I am saying here in this series. Now, they may not, however, I am VERY confident that, again, they would agree with what I am saying; and that I am in line with the MEANING and SPIRIT of God's word.
Scripture Reference Romans Chapter 2: Verse 1; "Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou judgest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same thing."
I want to mention again, that if a person is led to judge or to correct someone, he or she should not be guilty of doing the same thing, or like Jesus said in St. Matthew 7, they must be able to meet that measurement or standard by which they judge the other person. That does not mean that the person judging is perfect. It does mean that God needs to speak through somebody, to get the person's attention before you burn in hell. ALSO even if that person speaking of God is not perfect, God, by speaking to them or showing them things is showing that HE is pleased with their spiritual walk and they are doing something right. He, God, TRUST THEM, more than He trust other people, with information and to speak or to deliver information. So, do NOT kill the messenger of God.
Another excuse that EX-preacher said, when I was talking to him, is that I do not know his heart and you can not judge a person's heart by what they do. That is NOT true. You can know a person's heart; not in your own power, but by the Spirit of God revealing the person's heart and motives to you.
I have heard other people, who are plain sinners, complain about the same thing, that the preacher has no right to speak to them and judge them, because the preacher does not know them. Well, the preacher may not know them, but God knows them, and if God reveals to the preacher what you ate last night, or that you stole from your children back on Thurday evening, then the preacher by the Spirit of God, knows what you did.
If God tells the preacher, just using an example, that you need to love your children, and stop mistreating them or you will die and go to hell tonight, then the preacher then knows that about you. So, the preacher in himself does not know you, but God will show and tell the preacher things about you, and then the preacher will know things about you, about what kind of person you are and your heart. That is very easy for God to do. God will reveal things about you to him, for him to tell you to straighten up, because you think you are getting away with hurting people, but God sees it and you will answer to God to be punished.
1 Corinthians Chapter 2: Verse 11; "For what man knoweth the things of man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God."
Verse 12; "Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God."
Verse 13; "Which things also we speak, not in words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual."
Verse 14; "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
Verse 15; "BUT HE THAT IS SPIRITUAL JUDGETH ALL THINGS, YET HE HIMSELF IS JUDGED OF NO MAN."
Verse 16; "For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
I want to also present some scriptures here from Ezekiel.
Scripture reference Ezekiel Chapter 3: Verse 15; " Then I came to them of the capitivity at Telabib, that dwelt by the river of Chebar, and I sat where they sat, and remained there astonished among them seven days."
Verse 16; "And it came to pass at the end of the seven days, that the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,"
Verse 17; "Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore HEAR THE WORD AT MY MOUTH, AND GIVE THEM WARNING FROM ME!"
Verse 18; "When I say unto the wicked, thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand."
Verse 19; "Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul."
Verse 20; "Again, when a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thy hand."
Verse 21; "Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul."
I want to return and discuss judging churches.
Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Judge Not That Ye Be Not Judged?-Part F
Hello World:
As I begin today, I want to mention to everybody that I made an edit in part D of this judging series, publish date back on 11-16-2011. The Lord was telling me that some people are wondering what was the third time where I believe Paul was wrong in scriptures, and that I need to mention what it is. So, I was led of Lord to go back and ADD where I believe the THIRD TIME the Apostle Paul was wrong in the scriptures.
Back in that part D, I mentioned there were three times Paul was wrong, but I, originally, did not mention all three. So, after I talked about what Paul said about women there in part D, I mention some of what he said about secular government authority, and I show the scriptures. SOME of the things, Paul said about secular government leaders and rulers I disagree with and believe he was wrong there, EXCEPT for the paying tribute or dues. So, I ask that people may want to go back and look at that. I could have said even more there, but did not because of the length.
Now I want to continue, here today, to mention some things about the so-called preacher that I got into it with. I want to again say that God told me there is nothing wrong with my delivery. The truth hurts, and a person wallowing in sin and is being judged on the spot can not just all of a sudden become spiritual and judge the person tit for tat, or do reverse judging back and forth. This IS NOT a game of I judge you, so now you judge me.
I may not be perfect, but I do not have the beam in my eye. This is about you, today, not me. God sent me to tell you something. So, you have to wait your turn to judge whenever you get yourself right enough to where God really feels like he can trust you to use you. So in other words, if he had something to say of God about me, which he does not, he should have said it at a seperate time.
I want to also point out and every other minister need to read this and beware, that this preacher himself judged the unrighteous and unholy acts of others. He told me stories and experiences about when he was walking right with God how God used him to minister. I used to could talk about the things of God with him, however, I did observe him, being a supposed preacher, to be a little shaky or questionable, by the way he carries himself.
I mentioned that in the previous post. I will say some more about that with other preachers in the next post. However preachers keep reading here. When the tables were turned and now a man of God comes to him, and has a message to judge him, he, Mr. so-called Preacher CAN NOT handle it. It was okay for him to be supposedly led by God to tell people things and correct and judge people, but when it was his turn, because he fell into sin and is now willfully sinning, no one should be led of God to come up to him and correct him??? YES THEY SHOULD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This man used to talk about God and preaching. He stopped. He all of a sudden began going after woman after woman. He start hanging around non-christians, and cursing in common language. He started coming to me and instead of talking about God, started talking about how his woman can serve him, asking me what do I think about this woman, what should he do with this one and that one, and what would I do; which one would I choose. Several times, he would have a falling out with a girlfriend, then it seems almost like the next week he would get a new one. Any time you are bragging about your MULTIPLE EX-s, or basically, continuous failed relationships, you are the one with the problem, and need to just stay away from women, period.
His girlfriends are not all that either. They do NOT look pretty or sexy. In other words, they are NOT so hot or sexy as to be falling into sin over. Many of them recently have not even been in shape or healthy, NOR look like they were in any gym recently. It seems like he grabs almost anybody if they are available, regardless of how they look. Next thing now, he had several run-ins with the law, because his associates can not keep their hands off of other people's property and he is tagging along with them; instead of being around believers or on his knees praying somewhere.
He has gotten worse and worse, and I am tired of hearing about it from him. That is why the Lord prompted me to talk to him. So if something happens and he misses the Rapture and goes to hell, he can NOT say that I never told him he needs to straighten up and get right with God, or make an attempt in his heart to get right with God.
He talks too much too. I told him about that awhile back. He talks about almost everything that is going on, which is a problem, openly and boldly telling your information to everybody in site. That is major problem.
Some things are best kept secret, and between you and God. Learn how to shut up sometimes and not say anything about your personal issues. Everybody DO NOT need to know all your business. Even if you are a preacher, if you are struggling with something everybody DO NOT need to know all the details and dirt, because church or no church, PEOPLE CAN NOT BE TRUSTED.
Too many people, and too many people in a congregation can NOT handle your personal dirt, because their heart may not be right or pure. Some of them may want to further dig your spiritual grave or reputation with God, and capitalize socially and financially on your problems.
Trust only a few wise, praying, pure-hearted persons, who are close to God or people who have visitations from God; or trust no one, but God!!!! If it is best to step down or take a temporary leave then fine. However, if you are a preacher or minister, you are still no good sitting on the sidelines not doing anything. There are too many problems in the world with people who are suffering and who need help. So, it is still important for a minister who may have fallen or is struggling with some issues to contribute or continue to do something for God, and to not neglect God.
As I begin today, I want to mention to everybody that I made an edit in part D of this judging series, publish date back on 11-16-2011. The Lord was telling me that some people are wondering what was the third time where I believe Paul was wrong in scriptures, and that I need to mention what it is. So, I was led of Lord to go back and ADD where I believe the THIRD TIME the Apostle Paul was wrong in the scriptures.
Back in that part D, I mentioned there were three times Paul was wrong, but I, originally, did not mention all three. So, after I talked about what Paul said about women there in part D, I mention some of what he said about secular government authority, and I show the scriptures. SOME of the things, Paul said about secular government leaders and rulers I disagree with and believe he was wrong there, EXCEPT for the paying tribute or dues. So, I ask that people may want to go back and look at that. I could have said even more there, but did not because of the length.
Now I want to continue, here today, to mention some things about the so-called preacher that I got into it with. I want to again say that God told me there is nothing wrong with my delivery. The truth hurts, and a person wallowing in sin and is being judged on the spot can not just all of a sudden become spiritual and judge the person tit for tat, or do reverse judging back and forth. This IS NOT a game of I judge you, so now you judge me.
I may not be perfect, but I do not have the beam in my eye. This is about you, today, not me. God sent me to tell you something. So, you have to wait your turn to judge whenever you get yourself right enough to where God really feels like he can trust you to use you. So in other words, if he had something to say of God about me, which he does not, he should have said it at a seperate time.
I want to also point out and every other minister need to read this and beware, that this preacher himself judged the unrighteous and unholy acts of others. He told me stories and experiences about when he was walking right with God how God used him to minister. I used to could talk about the things of God with him, however, I did observe him, being a supposed preacher, to be a little shaky or questionable, by the way he carries himself.
I mentioned that in the previous post. I will say some more about that with other preachers in the next post. However preachers keep reading here. When the tables were turned and now a man of God comes to him, and has a message to judge him, he, Mr. so-called Preacher CAN NOT handle it. It was okay for him to be supposedly led by God to tell people things and correct and judge people, but when it was his turn, because he fell into sin and is now willfully sinning, no one should be led of God to come up to him and correct him??? YES THEY SHOULD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This man used to talk about God and preaching. He stopped. He all of a sudden began going after woman after woman. He start hanging around non-christians, and cursing in common language. He started coming to me and instead of talking about God, started talking about how his woman can serve him, asking me what do I think about this woman, what should he do with this one and that one, and what would I do; which one would I choose. Several times, he would have a falling out with a girlfriend, then it seems almost like the next week he would get a new one. Any time you are bragging about your MULTIPLE EX-s, or basically, continuous failed relationships, you are the one with the problem, and need to just stay away from women, period.
His girlfriends are not all that either. They do NOT look pretty or sexy. In other words, they are NOT so hot or sexy as to be falling into sin over. Many of them recently have not even been in shape or healthy, NOR look like they were in any gym recently. It seems like he grabs almost anybody if they are available, regardless of how they look. Next thing now, he had several run-ins with the law, because his associates can not keep their hands off of other people's property and he is tagging along with them; instead of being around believers or on his knees praying somewhere.
He has gotten worse and worse, and I am tired of hearing about it from him. That is why the Lord prompted me to talk to him. So if something happens and he misses the Rapture and goes to hell, he can NOT say that I never told him he needs to straighten up and get right with God, or make an attempt in his heart to get right with God.
He talks too much too. I told him about that awhile back. He talks about almost everything that is going on, which is a problem, openly and boldly telling your information to everybody in site. That is major problem.
Some things are best kept secret, and between you and God. Learn how to shut up sometimes and not say anything about your personal issues. Everybody DO NOT need to know all your business. Even if you are a preacher, if you are struggling with something everybody DO NOT need to know all the details and dirt, because church or no church, PEOPLE CAN NOT BE TRUSTED.
Too many people, and too many people in a congregation can NOT handle your personal dirt, because their heart may not be right or pure. Some of them may want to further dig your spiritual grave or reputation with God, and capitalize socially and financially on your problems.
Trust only a few wise, praying, pure-hearted persons, who are close to God or people who have visitations from God; or trust no one, but God!!!! If it is best to step down or take a temporary leave then fine. However, if you are a preacher or minister, you are still no good sitting on the sidelines not doing anything. There are too many problems in the world with people who are suffering and who need help. So, it is still important for a minister who may have fallen or is struggling with some issues to contribute or continue to do something for God, and to not neglect God.
Saturday, November 19, 2011
Judge Not That Ye Be Not Judged?-Part E
Hello World:
The backsliden preacher, I discussed from last time, was using scriptures like he was so spiritual and pleasing to God in his walk. When in fact, he is wrong and full of crap. Another thing, he mentioned was that he did not like my approach, and I needed to ask God for wisdom, because he would have prefered I came to him gentler. I told him I could have came to him worse. I got really personal with him and mentioned that I COULD HAVE, but did not, but could have told him he need to stop sticking his "thing" in somebody's you know what.
Another thing, I want people to really understand this point, and all my points in this blog. I was not trying to focus judging that so-called preacher because of his personal sexual sins, or fornicating. I am not that kind of preacher or minister that wants to condemn people week after week of their sexual sins, making folks feel guilty; or beating down people with guilt, because I do not know anything else to preach about. That is not what I am about.
I get turned off by that kind of preaching, because there are many other sins and even worser sins to preach about that preachers seem to always miss and never mention. In terms of fornication and adultery and lust I know it is hard and NOT easy, especially for men, and it is still morally wrong to God, but are we trying to make any effort in our heart to do better for God. That ex-preacher I talked to is not.
He has been getting worse and worse in sins, and farther and farther from God, for a couple of years now. Another thing, he does not have to answer to me, and I do not want anyone to think they have to answer to me, in that regard, in terms of personal struggles, involving themselves. That is between them and God. I am just there, hearing from God, sent of God to remind him and other people to get their priorities right before it is too late. AND I ONLY NEED TO SAY ALL OF THAT ONE TIME, and then no longer talk about it.
He is true to nothing, but pleasing himself. I really have no more respect for the guy as a minister or preacher, again, NOT because of his fornicating, but because of his UNwillingness to accept responsibility to God, his disrespect towards the messenger sent of God, and his out of control, UNdisciplined behavior. I hope and pray that he never holds a microphone to preach again. He needs to be knocked down on his butt. I will say more about the WRONG people holding the microphone in churches, when I get to parts I and K, on this "Judge Not That Ye Be Not Judged" topic.
My main thing was to tell him that whatever he is doing, do NOT forget about God each day, because the real problem and what the devil wants to do is cause us to remove God out of our lives each day, by putting problems, obstacles, people and things in our way; to cause us to stop seeking God, stop worshipping God, ignore doing things for God and forgetting God altogether.
So, again, his sex sins was not the thing I was, specifically, focusing in on when I was talking to him. I was not trying to ruin his fun, although God sees those works of his as wrong. I was, again, just trying to WARN him about him getting away from and neglecting God. And God told me there was nothing wrong with my delivery. God told me to keep delivering the way I deliver. People better be careful trying to kill and discredit God's messengers. I will be back soon to deliver more about judging.
The backsliden preacher, I discussed from last time, was using scriptures like he was so spiritual and pleasing to God in his walk. When in fact, he is wrong and full of crap. Another thing, he mentioned was that he did not like my approach, and I needed to ask God for wisdom, because he would have prefered I came to him gentler. I told him I could have came to him worse. I got really personal with him and mentioned that I COULD HAVE, but did not, but could have told him he need to stop sticking his "thing" in somebody's you know what.
Another thing, I want people to really understand this point, and all my points in this blog. I was not trying to focus judging that so-called preacher because of his personal sexual sins, or fornicating. I am not that kind of preacher or minister that wants to condemn people week after week of their sexual sins, making folks feel guilty; or beating down people with guilt, because I do not know anything else to preach about. That is not what I am about.
I get turned off by that kind of preaching, because there are many other sins and even worser sins to preach about that preachers seem to always miss and never mention. In terms of fornication and adultery and lust I know it is hard and NOT easy, especially for men, and it is still morally wrong to God, but are we trying to make any effort in our heart to do better for God. That ex-preacher I talked to is not.
He has been getting worse and worse in sins, and farther and farther from God, for a couple of years now. Another thing, he does not have to answer to me, and I do not want anyone to think they have to answer to me, in that regard, in terms of personal struggles, involving themselves. That is between them and God. I am just there, hearing from God, sent of God to remind him and other people to get their priorities right before it is too late. AND I ONLY NEED TO SAY ALL OF THAT ONE TIME, and then no longer talk about it.
He is true to nothing, but pleasing himself. I really have no more respect for the guy as a minister or preacher, again, NOT because of his fornicating, but because of his UNwillingness to accept responsibility to God, his disrespect towards the messenger sent of God, and his out of control, UNdisciplined behavior. I hope and pray that he never holds a microphone to preach again. He needs to be knocked down on his butt. I will say more about the WRONG people holding the microphone in churches, when I get to parts I and K, on this "Judge Not That Ye Be Not Judged" topic.
My main thing was to tell him that whatever he is doing, do NOT forget about God each day, because the real problem and what the devil wants to do is cause us to remove God out of our lives each day, by putting problems, obstacles, people and things in our way; to cause us to stop seeking God, stop worshipping God, ignore doing things for God and forgetting God altogether.
So, again, his sex sins was not the thing I was, specifically, focusing in on when I was talking to him. I was not trying to ruin his fun, although God sees those works of his as wrong. I was, again, just trying to WARN him about him getting away from and neglecting God. And God told me there was nothing wrong with my delivery. God told me to keep delivering the way I deliver. People better be careful trying to kill and discredit God's messengers. I will be back soon to deliver more about judging.
Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Judge Not That Ye Be Not Judged?-Part D
Hello World:
I got into it with a preacher, who is doing several things that are ungodly. I want to make something clear here. Several of the posts, in this current judging series, will be about my interaction with this preacher. I am going to be HEAVILY, NOT HEAVENLY, but HEAVILY on the offensive in this series. I am going to really be on the attack. I want people to understand this. This is part D, and what I ended up doing is going a little over halfway through the english alphabet, in order to part N or the letter N with this series. So, again this is another series topic, that has been extended longer than I thought.
This preacher is not preaching or ministering any more. He is jumping from one woman to the next. There are times when he, literally, has no self-control about the way he walks and carries himself. He likes to draw attention to himself. He curses and hangs around ungodly company.
He has had, recently, several brushes with the law enforcement, because of people that he hangs around with. Well, I told him about some of that ungodly behavior, and asked him what was he doing for God and is he making time for God each day, because if the Rapture takes place, with his current condition of neglecting God, he will miss the Rapture and be in trouble.
Well, after I told him that, he got upset with me and told me that most of the church of Christ is not ready and messed up, and I do not know his heart and can not judge him. Then he gave me a scripture from Romans Chapter 14: Verse 13, where Paul said we, as believers should not judge each other. Paul said the reason why we should not judge other believers is because we shall all stand before the judgement seat of Christ. I will discuss the judgement seat of Christ later on, which is for believers. However, I want to mention that from my research into what happens to some people on the other side after they die, some believers if they get away from God and leave God, WILL NOT MAKE IT to the judgement seat of Christ.
Let me at least say this much about what Paul said; I believe that Paul in saying what he said in that scripture from Romans 14:13, was wrong, AND not only that, but that was 1 OF THREE TIMES in scripture or the Bible where I believe Paul was wrong. I do not want to go into the other two so much now. I talked about them before. As an example, another time was when he said, women should keep quiet in the church, women should not teach and they should ask their husbands at home for answers. Now, I can and have said several things against that before and can say more. However, here today, I am trying to stay on the subject of judging.
I need to also add in here, what the THIRD TIME is, where I believe Paul was wrong. It was where he talked in support of government leaders or people in SECULAR authority. He makes general claims that they are ordained of God and ministers of God to us for good. A set of scriptures on that is found in Romans Chapter 13: Verses 1 through 7. I believe those claims by Paul about government authority and power from God are MOST of the time NOT THE CASE.
God ordained and empowered SOME leaders and rulers BACK IN THE OLD TESTAMENT TIMES. That was, again, SOMETIMES. However, during Paul's time and ESPECIALLY today that is DEFINITELY NOT the case. As for some examples, God is NOT going to ordain any government leaders and EMPOWER them to behead, stone and crucify his believers and Apostles RIGHT SIDE UP, UPSIDE DOWN, and by other means, as were the cases of John the Baptist, Jesus Christ, Steven the Deacon, Apostle Peter and even the Apostle Paul himself.
Paul does make sense when he says there in Romans Chapter 13, that we are to pay tributes or dues or taxes to the government; and I am going to be more specific, and add that we should pay taxes that are WITHIN REASON and that are NOT oppressive. Paying tributes or taxes was also endorsed by the Lord Jesus when he walked the earth.
Another thing, about all this with these scriptures, is that people need to be careful of those who will use scriptures as an excuse, FOR THEIR OWN EVIL PURPOSES and GAINS over other people, and NOT for the will of God. That ALSO, how the scriptures are used properly or inproperly by people, I have authority OF GOD to judge that too. Again, I can say more about this, but want to get back on the judging subject.
In regards to the subject, here today, of judging; I COUNTER that scripture from Romans 14:13 by the ex-preacher, about believers not judging other believers, with the scriptures from the same Apostle Paul from the book of 2 Timothy. The reason why I use 2 Timothy, is because 2 Timothy is believed to be the last book Paul wrote. That means he wrote that book some time after he wrote the book of Romans.
In 2 Timothy Chapter 4: Verse 1; Paul says to Timothy, who was his understudy, "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and dead at his appearing and his kingdom;"
Verse 2; "Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; REPROVE, REBUKE, EXHORT with all longsuffering and doctrine."
Verse 3; "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;"
Verse 4; "And they shall turn their ears away from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."
So, before Paul is about to be put to death in or near Rome, he writes to Timothy and gives him instructions. And in verse 2 above it can be seen that when Paul tells Timothy to reprove, rebuke and exhort, he is basically telling Timothy to Judge, and to judge other believers in the church according to doctrine in obedience to God and to Jesus Christ.
I still believe that the Apostle Paul is probably one of the best Christian preachers and teachers in history. And I would have to say that what he said to Timothy, in 2 Timothy Chapter 4:1-4 being some of his last words, OVER-RIDES what he said in Romans Chapter 14: Verse 13. I need to break off here and continue on this topic in the next post.
I got into it with a preacher, who is doing several things that are ungodly. I want to make something clear here. Several of the posts, in this current judging series, will be about my interaction with this preacher. I am going to be HEAVILY, NOT HEAVENLY, but HEAVILY on the offensive in this series. I am going to really be on the attack. I want people to understand this. This is part D, and what I ended up doing is going a little over halfway through the english alphabet, in order to part N or the letter N with this series. So, again this is another series topic, that has been extended longer than I thought.
This preacher is not preaching or ministering any more. He is jumping from one woman to the next. There are times when he, literally, has no self-control about the way he walks and carries himself. He likes to draw attention to himself. He curses and hangs around ungodly company.
He has had, recently, several brushes with the law enforcement, because of people that he hangs around with. Well, I told him about some of that ungodly behavior, and asked him what was he doing for God and is he making time for God each day, because if the Rapture takes place, with his current condition of neglecting God, he will miss the Rapture and be in trouble.
Well, after I told him that, he got upset with me and told me that most of the church of Christ is not ready and messed up, and I do not know his heart and can not judge him. Then he gave me a scripture from Romans Chapter 14: Verse 13, where Paul said we, as believers should not judge each other. Paul said the reason why we should not judge other believers is because we shall all stand before the judgement seat of Christ. I will discuss the judgement seat of Christ later on, which is for believers. However, I want to mention that from my research into what happens to some people on the other side after they die, some believers if they get away from God and leave God, WILL NOT MAKE IT to the judgement seat of Christ.
Let me at least say this much about what Paul said; I believe that Paul in saying what he said in that scripture from Romans 14:13, was wrong, AND not only that, but that was 1 OF THREE TIMES in scripture or the Bible where I believe Paul was wrong. I do not want to go into the other two so much now. I talked about them before. As an example, another time was when he said, women should keep quiet in the church, women should not teach and they should ask their husbands at home for answers. Now, I can and have said several things against that before and can say more. However, here today, I am trying to stay on the subject of judging.
I need to also add in here, what the THIRD TIME is, where I believe Paul was wrong. It was where he talked in support of government leaders or people in SECULAR authority. He makes general claims that they are ordained of God and ministers of God to us for good. A set of scriptures on that is found in Romans Chapter 13: Verses 1 through 7. I believe those claims by Paul about government authority and power from God are MOST of the time NOT THE CASE.
God ordained and empowered SOME leaders and rulers BACK IN THE OLD TESTAMENT TIMES. That was, again, SOMETIMES. However, during Paul's time and ESPECIALLY today that is DEFINITELY NOT the case. As for some examples, God is NOT going to ordain any government leaders and EMPOWER them to behead, stone and crucify his believers and Apostles RIGHT SIDE UP, UPSIDE DOWN, and by other means, as were the cases of John the Baptist, Jesus Christ, Steven the Deacon, Apostle Peter and even the Apostle Paul himself.
Paul does make sense when he says there in Romans Chapter 13, that we are to pay tributes or dues or taxes to the government; and I am going to be more specific, and add that we should pay taxes that are WITHIN REASON and that are NOT oppressive. Paying tributes or taxes was also endorsed by the Lord Jesus when he walked the earth.
Another thing, about all this with these scriptures, is that people need to be careful of those who will use scriptures as an excuse, FOR THEIR OWN EVIL PURPOSES and GAINS over other people, and NOT for the will of God. That ALSO, how the scriptures are used properly or inproperly by people, I have authority OF GOD to judge that too. Again, I can say more about this, but want to get back on the judging subject.
In regards to the subject, here today, of judging; I COUNTER that scripture from Romans 14:13 by the ex-preacher, about believers not judging other believers, with the scriptures from the same Apostle Paul from the book of 2 Timothy. The reason why I use 2 Timothy, is because 2 Timothy is believed to be the last book Paul wrote. That means he wrote that book some time after he wrote the book of Romans.
In 2 Timothy Chapter 4: Verse 1; Paul says to Timothy, who was his understudy, "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and dead at his appearing and his kingdom;"
Verse 2; "Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; REPROVE, REBUKE, EXHORT with all longsuffering and doctrine."
Verse 3; "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;"
Verse 4; "And they shall turn their ears away from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."
So, before Paul is about to be put to death in or near Rome, he writes to Timothy and gives him instructions. And in verse 2 above it can be seen that when Paul tells Timothy to reprove, rebuke and exhort, he is basically telling Timothy to Judge, and to judge other believers in the church according to doctrine in obedience to God and to Jesus Christ.
I still believe that the Apostle Paul is probably one of the best Christian preachers and teachers in history. And I would have to say that what he said to Timothy, in 2 Timothy Chapter 4:1-4 being some of his last words, OVER-RIDES what he said in Romans Chapter 14: Verse 13. I need to break off here and continue on this topic in the next post.
Sunday, November 13, 2011
Judge Not That Ye Be Not Judged?-Part C
Hello World:
A person MUST hear from God AND be led by God to judge someone else. Therefore NOT everybody or anybody can judge, because everybody does not hear from God, and everybody is not led by God, NOR are with God. God choses believers in Him and His Son, who are listening and whom He can trust to be obedient to Him, and give those believers authority to judge; by revelation by His Spirit and speaking to the trusted believers what to say and judge.
That authority to judge in righteous judgement does not come from your teacher nor the president nor from your mother; and not from your own self appointment, but again, from God. A person should not judge to condemn a person to the block, or pound guilt upon the other person over and over.
St. John Chapter 7: Verse 24; "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgement.
St. John Chapter 8: Verse 15; "Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man."
Verse 16; "And yet IF I judge, my judgement is true: for I am not alone, but I and THE FATHER THAT SENT ME."
St. John Chapter 8: Verse 26; "I have many things to say and judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things WHICH I HAVE HEARD OF HIM."
Psalm Chapter 97: Verse 2; "Clouds and darkness are round about him; righteousness and judgement are the habitation of his throne."
Psalm Chapter 119: Verse 137; "Righteous art thou, O Lord, and upright are thy judgements."
I want to mention in here that the next set of scriptures, following, are examples of Jesus and Paul literally in the act of judging others.
St. John Chapter 8: Verse 44; Jesus said, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. he was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
Acts Chapter 13: Verse 10; Paul said, "And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?"
God is Righteous and His judgements are righteous. God gave Jesus Christ authority to judge. Jesus Christ's judgement is true and righteous, because He sought to do the will of God, the Father. The will of God, the Father is righteousness or to do righteousness. The Father has sent Jesus to judge and is therefore with Jesus or on Jesus' side in how he judges, because Jesus does what the Father tells Him to do.
Now because Jesus has authority to judge, believers and followers of Jesus, or those who are born-again, also are given authority to judge. This is because as believers and followers of Jesus Christ, we are to do the works of Christ, and the works of Christ are the will of the Father, and the will of the Father is to stand for and uphold righteousness.
As believers in Christ who are living righteous, we are shown from God or God speaks to us that something is not right and tells us what to do or what to say. We are to do and say what we heard of HIM, JUST LIKE JESUS DID.
If we as believers do NOT do or NOT speak in judgement what God is telling us, we are being disobedient to God, and are not doing His will, but instead are in major violation of His will. Another thing, when we do not use our authority given of God to judge in righteousness, or to execute judgement on people who are unrighteous, that is a sign that we fear men more than God, and are putting ourselves and men above God in our lives. I have more coming in part D next time.
A person MUST hear from God AND be led by God to judge someone else. Therefore NOT everybody or anybody can judge, because everybody does not hear from God, and everybody is not led by God, NOR are with God. God choses believers in Him and His Son, who are listening and whom He can trust to be obedient to Him, and give those believers authority to judge; by revelation by His Spirit and speaking to the trusted believers what to say and judge.
That authority to judge in righteous judgement does not come from your teacher nor the president nor from your mother; and not from your own self appointment, but again, from God. A person should not judge to condemn a person to the block, or pound guilt upon the other person over and over.
St. John Chapter 7: Verse 24; "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgement.
St. John Chapter 8: Verse 15; "Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man."
Verse 16; "And yet IF I judge, my judgement is true: for I am not alone, but I and THE FATHER THAT SENT ME."
St. John Chapter 8: Verse 26; "I have many things to say and judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things WHICH I HAVE HEARD OF HIM."
Psalm Chapter 97: Verse 2; "Clouds and darkness are round about him; righteousness and judgement are the habitation of his throne."
Psalm Chapter 119: Verse 137; "Righteous art thou, O Lord, and upright are thy judgements."
I want to mention in here that the next set of scriptures, following, are examples of Jesus and Paul literally in the act of judging others.
St. John Chapter 8: Verse 44; Jesus said, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. he was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
Acts Chapter 13: Verse 10; Paul said, "And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?"
God is Righteous and His judgements are righteous. God gave Jesus Christ authority to judge. Jesus Christ's judgement is true and righteous, because He sought to do the will of God, the Father. The will of God, the Father is righteousness or to do righteousness. The Father has sent Jesus to judge and is therefore with Jesus or on Jesus' side in how he judges, because Jesus does what the Father tells Him to do.
Now because Jesus has authority to judge, believers and followers of Jesus, or those who are born-again, also are given authority to judge. This is because as believers and followers of Jesus Christ, we are to do the works of Christ, and the works of Christ are the will of the Father, and the will of the Father is to stand for and uphold righteousness.
As believers in Christ who are living righteous, we are shown from God or God speaks to us that something is not right and tells us what to do or what to say. We are to do and say what we heard of HIM, JUST LIKE JESUS DID.
If we as believers do NOT do or NOT speak in judgement what God is telling us, we are being disobedient to God, and are not doing His will, but instead are in major violation of His will. Another thing, when we do not use our authority given of God to judge in righteousness, or to execute judgement on people who are unrighteous, that is a sign that we fear men more than God, and are putting ourselves and men above God in our lives. I have more coming in part D next time.
Wednesday, November 09, 2011
Judge Not That Ye Be Not Judged?-Part B
Hello World:
Last time I talked about three misinterpretations in the Bible. I finished last time mentioning about how people use, misinterpret and misuse, the "Judge not that ye be not judged" that is taken from what Jesus said in St. Matthew 7:1. I explained that many people, who do not really know the Bible, just take that one scripture from the Bible, and run with it, and use it to say that no one should judge, because that is what it says there in the Bible. Well, I also went on to point out that interpretation is wrong or NOT correct of that scripture in the Bible.
I explained that that scripture in St. Matthew 7:1 does not stand on its own, and that people need to add the verses 2 through 5 with verse 1 to get the true meaning or full context of what Jesus really means. Henceforth here in this post I am continuing to discuss the issue and correct the misinterpretation of the scripture and saying that we should not judge.
Scripture reference, St. Matthew Chapter 7: Verse 1; "Judge not that ye be not judged."
Verse 2; "For with what judgement ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."
Verse 3; "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
Verse 4; "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and behold, a beam is in thine own eye?"
Verse 5; "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."
What I am going to explain from all FIVE of those above scriptures is going to be very huge. Again all FIVE(emphasis on five) of those scriptures from St. Matthew 7:1-5 go together. The difference between a mote and a beam, is that a mote is like a little twig or small splinter of wood or maybe even a smaller particle; whereas a beam is like a large, noticeable and annoying stick, or large piece of wood or metal rod that is really in the way and causing the main problems.
There are several things going on with those above scriptures. First, let me say this, that there is a lot of people who should not judge, because they do not have authority to judge. However, that does not go for everybody, because some people do have authority to judge other people. In other words, not just anybody or not everybody can judge, or judge on a consistent basis in righteousness.
However, what Jesus is saying, collectively in those 5 scriptures, is that if you judge someone on a certain issue or standard, for your judgement to be true and just, you have to be able to meet that standard or measure up decent to that standard that you are judging the other person by.
You can judge the other person as long as you are not guilty of the same thing, or you are living a life of reasonable decency and integrity. You do not have to necessarily be perfect, but you also are not the biggest sinner on the planet or the one causing the biggest problems, while at the same time trying to correct someone else.
As an example, if I curse a lot, which I do NOT, but just saying as an example, and I hear someone else cursing, I tell them they should not curse, they are wrong to curse, or that God is going to get them for cursing. Well, I can not judge them or condemn them because I would be guilty of the same thing. See, I can not meet that standard of not cursing, so I have no right to tell someone else they are wrong and will be in trouble, because I will be in trouble right along with them.
Now, if I do not curse, or if I do not smoke, I can tell someone else that is wrong, or that they should not smoke and that smoking kills. I can judge people who curse and people who smoke, because I can meet those standards of not being guilty of doing those things.
Then also in regards to the beam and the mote that Jesus mentions, some people look at other people and wrongfully judge a person, based on some small issue in a person's life, when they themselves have bigger faults and cause more problems against others than the person they are judging. Jesus is saying that is NOT right.
Again, no one has to be perfect, but Jesus is saying, clean up your mess of a life, first, or go correct the problems you are causing with people, first, before you go to try to reprimand and straighten out someone else's life. There is more to this that I need to mention, so I will be back next week.
Last time I talked about three misinterpretations in the Bible. I finished last time mentioning about how people use, misinterpret and misuse, the "Judge not that ye be not judged" that is taken from what Jesus said in St. Matthew 7:1. I explained that many people, who do not really know the Bible, just take that one scripture from the Bible, and run with it, and use it to say that no one should judge, because that is what it says there in the Bible. Well, I also went on to point out that interpretation is wrong or NOT correct of that scripture in the Bible.
I explained that that scripture in St. Matthew 7:1 does not stand on its own, and that people need to add the verses 2 through 5 with verse 1 to get the true meaning or full context of what Jesus really means. Henceforth here in this post I am continuing to discuss the issue and correct the misinterpretation of the scripture and saying that we should not judge.
Scripture reference, St. Matthew Chapter 7: Verse 1; "Judge not that ye be not judged."
Verse 2; "For with what judgement ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."
Verse 3; "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
Verse 4; "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and behold, a beam is in thine own eye?"
Verse 5; "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."
What I am going to explain from all FIVE of those above scriptures is going to be very huge. Again all FIVE(emphasis on five) of those scriptures from St. Matthew 7:1-5 go together. The difference between a mote and a beam, is that a mote is like a little twig or small splinter of wood or maybe even a smaller particle; whereas a beam is like a large, noticeable and annoying stick, or large piece of wood or metal rod that is really in the way and causing the main problems.
There are several things going on with those above scriptures. First, let me say this, that there is a lot of people who should not judge, because they do not have authority to judge. However, that does not go for everybody, because some people do have authority to judge other people. In other words, not just anybody or not everybody can judge, or judge on a consistent basis in righteousness.
However, what Jesus is saying, collectively in those 5 scriptures, is that if you judge someone on a certain issue or standard, for your judgement to be true and just, you have to be able to meet that standard or measure up decent to that standard that you are judging the other person by.
You can judge the other person as long as you are not guilty of the same thing, or you are living a life of reasonable decency and integrity. You do not have to necessarily be perfect, but you also are not the biggest sinner on the planet or the one causing the biggest problems, while at the same time trying to correct someone else.
As an example, if I curse a lot, which I do NOT, but just saying as an example, and I hear someone else cursing, I tell them they should not curse, they are wrong to curse, or that God is going to get them for cursing. Well, I can not judge them or condemn them because I would be guilty of the same thing. See, I can not meet that standard of not cursing, so I have no right to tell someone else they are wrong and will be in trouble, because I will be in trouble right along with them.
Now, if I do not curse, or if I do not smoke, I can tell someone else that is wrong, or that they should not smoke and that smoking kills. I can judge people who curse and people who smoke, because I can meet those standards of not being guilty of doing those things.
Then also in regards to the beam and the mote that Jesus mentions, some people look at other people and wrongfully judge a person, based on some small issue in a person's life, when they themselves have bigger faults and cause more problems against others than the person they are judging. Jesus is saying that is NOT right.
Again, no one has to be perfect, but Jesus is saying, clean up your mess of a life, first, or go correct the problems you are causing with people, first, before you go to try to reprimand and straighten out someone else's life. There is more to this that I need to mention, so I will be back next week.
Sunday, November 06, 2011
Judge Not That Ye Be Not Judged?-Part A
Hello World:
This topic is related to the great white throne of judgement topic, but I believe it is best to post it under a different title here. In this topic I need to explain a major misinterpretation of the Bible or scriptures, by many people. First though, below I want to list 3 misinterpretations that a lot of people make and believe from the Bible.
1. Money is the root of evil or all evil. I have talked about this before in my archives. This is not what the Bible or scriptures actually says. The scripture on this is from 1 Timothy Chapter 6: Verse 10; and it says "For the love of money is the root of all evil........" Therefore money is NOT the root of all evil, but the love of it according to the scriptures.
2. A rich man can not go to Heaven, because Jesus said a camel can not go through the eye of a needle. This is from the scripture in St. Matthew Chapter 19: Verse 24. Many people, especially in the west look at that scripture different from eastern culture. Many of those and even preachers think that in that scripture Jesus is talking about a camel and trying to fit the camel into the hole or eye of a little sowing needle that people hold in their hands to sow up clothes with. That is NOT what Jesus is saying.
Jesus is actually talking about a camel going through one of the small narrow gates to enter the city of Jerusalem back at that time. According to my Dake Bible there are large entrances and small entrances to the gates of the city. The small entrances were or are actually called the NEEDLE'S EYE. It would be difficult for a camel to go through the small ones, especially if the camel is loaded or carrying a load of things.
If the camel is unloaded from what it is carrying and it kneeled down, it possibly could enter through the eye of the needle or gate into the city. What Jesus said is synonymous to what a rich man would need to do by unloading his earthly riches and kneeling or humbling himself before God and following Jesus to enter into Heaven. It can be done, but it is difficult for people to make that choice. That is why Jesus said it is easier for the camel.
3. Judge not that ye be not judged, don't be judging, do not judge, or you are not supposed to judge. Those are all sayings from people who misinterpret what Jesus said from the scripture in the Bible, in St. Matthew Chapter 7: Verse 1; "Judge not, that ye be not judged." Now I need to say here that what people see there, in that scripture, literally word for word and what they think Jesus means that people should not judge IS NOT CORRECT.
Everybody and there grandmother seems to know about the judge not that ye be not judged. However, to get the truth out of the actual meaning of that scripture really comes down to really studying the Bible and reading not only verse 1 in that chapter 7 of St. Matthew, but you have to, ALSO, include verses 2 through 5. In other words, verse 1, "Judge not that ye be not judged" is a scripture whos' meaning does not stand on its own. You need to include the following scriptures after verse 1, to get the true meaning of what Jesus is saying as a whole.
Some single scriptures do stand on their own meaning, and then there are some scriptures that need to have the surrounding scriptures for the correct context. Everybody does not know that. Again, you have to have fully read the Bible, studied the Bible over time, and be given an understanding of God to be able to determine the relationship and meaning of the scriptures to one another. You need all three of those things above; and not just one of or two of those three, but all three.
It is from having experience in the Word of God. Some times you have to read the whole story or parable, and setting and some times you do not. So, what I need to do is come back in part B and show verses 2 though 5 and explain the true context of those scriptures.
This topic is related to the great white throne of judgement topic, but I believe it is best to post it under a different title here. In this topic I need to explain a major misinterpretation of the Bible or scriptures, by many people. First though, below I want to list 3 misinterpretations that a lot of people make and believe from the Bible.
1. Money is the root of evil or all evil. I have talked about this before in my archives. This is not what the Bible or scriptures actually says. The scripture on this is from 1 Timothy Chapter 6: Verse 10; and it says "For the love of money is the root of all evil........" Therefore money is NOT the root of all evil, but the love of it according to the scriptures.
2. A rich man can not go to Heaven, because Jesus said a camel can not go through the eye of a needle. This is from the scripture in St. Matthew Chapter 19: Verse 24. Many people, especially in the west look at that scripture different from eastern culture. Many of those and even preachers think that in that scripture Jesus is talking about a camel and trying to fit the camel into the hole or eye of a little sowing needle that people hold in their hands to sow up clothes with. That is NOT what Jesus is saying.
Jesus is actually talking about a camel going through one of the small narrow gates to enter the city of Jerusalem back at that time. According to my Dake Bible there are large entrances and small entrances to the gates of the city. The small entrances were or are actually called the NEEDLE'S EYE. It would be difficult for a camel to go through the small ones, especially if the camel is loaded or carrying a load of things.
If the camel is unloaded from what it is carrying and it kneeled down, it possibly could enter through the eye of the needle or gate into the city. What Jesus said is synonymous to what a rich man would need to do by unloading his earthly riches and kneeling or humbling himself before God and following Jesus to enter into Heaven. It can be done, but it is difficult for people to make that choice. That is why Jesus said it is easier for the camel.
3. Judge not that ye be not judged, don't be judging, do not judge, or you are not supposed to judge. Those are all sayings from people who misinterpret what Jesus said from the scripture in the Bible, in St. Matthew Chapter 7: Verse 1; "Judge not, that ye be not judged." Now I need to say here that what people see there, in that scripture, literally word for word and what they think Jesus means that people should not judge IS NOT CORRECT.
Everybody and there grandmother seems to know about the judge not that ye be not judged. However, to get the truth out of the actual meaning of that scripture really comes down to really studying the Bible and reading not only verse 1 in that chapter 7 of St. Matthew, but you have to, ALSO, include verses 2 through 5. In other words, verse 1, "Judge not that ye be not judged" is a scripture whos' meaning does not stand on its own. You need to include the following scriptures after verse 1, to get the true meaning of what Jesus is saying as a whole.
Some single scriptures do stand on their own meaning, and then there are some scriptures that need to have the surrounding scriptures for the correct context. Everybody does not know that. Again, you have to have fully read the Bible, studied the Bible over time, and be given an understanding of God to be able to determine the relationship and meaning of the scriptures to one another. You need all three of those things above; and not just one of or two of those three, but all three.
It is from having experience in the Word of God. Some times you have to read the whole story or parable, and setting and some times you do not. So, what I need to do is come back in part B and show verses 2 though 5 and explain the true context of those scriptures.
Wednesday, November 02, 2011
The Great White Throne Of Judgement-Pt. II
Hello World:
Continuing from pt. I, I was discussing the two mysteries surrounding the great white throne of judgement. I talked about that it appears that no one knows where the throne will be located or the actual place where judgement day takes place. Then I mentioned that, contrary to what many believe, Jesus Christ may be the one sitting on the great white throne of judgement doing the judging on Judgement Day.
I said, in this part II, I would provide the scripture, which some scholars believe, shows that Jesus Christ will be the ultimate one who will judge mankind on judgement day.
Scripture Reference St. John Chapter 5: Verse 22; "For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgement unto the Son:"
That scripture from St. John 5:22 does not specifically mention Judgement Day, but some in the Christian field believe that because Jesus Christ says in that scripture of St. John 5:22, that the Father judgeth no man, but committed ALL judgement unto the Son, that Jesus is implying that He will be the ultimate judge of mankind even on Judgement day.
However, even though Jesus made the statement of ALL judgement being committed to Him, I still have some reason to believe that it could be the Father in Heaven who will judge on Judgement Day. That is not to take anything away from Jesus. This is all speculative on my part, and others. I think it is interesting though.
The reason why I believe the Judge, sitting on the great white throne of judgemnt is the Father, is because in Revelation, when it describes who is sitting on throne, as him whose face the earth and the heaven fled away, really looks to me to be a description of the Father. From my research, through other instances in the bible, and testimonies from people who have been to Heaven, and seen God, the Father, but was NOT able to see his face, because of the infinite power coming from God, that is why I think in Revelation 20:11, it is talking about the Father.
People have been able to see Jesus Christ face and be physically close to Jesus. Some people could not see Jesus face, but I have reason to believe if someone could not see Jesus face, that that Jesus may have been an imposter. Scripturally, it has been documented that men could look on Jesus and see his face. However, scripturally, no man could look at the face of God and live, because of the power of God is so strong. Those consistencies still should hold true, unless the Father decides He wants to reveal his face to someone. The point being, that men was always able to look at Jesus Christ's face.
Again, I am speculating above, and Jesus Christ can still be the appointed judge. There are two other sections of scripture, that I have not heard anyone bring up in relation to Jesus being the judge on Judgement Day. However, Jesus seems to hint that He could be the one, further in the same St. John Chapter 5, and on another occassion in the scriptures. Those scriptures are from St. Matthew Chapter 25: Verses 31 through 46; and again in St. John Chapter 5: Verses 25 through 29. In those scriptures Jesus refers to Himself as the Son of Man and the Son of God as the person judging all these people; and so the Son of, is a clear distinction from the Father, God.
Also too, God may have another way by which He or the Son does it. There is also something that is called the Judgement Seat of Christ. Which, is for believers or saints and is SEPERATE FROM the great white throne of judgement and Judgement Day. I will come back to talking about that along with Judgement Day a few posts down the way.
Now here I want to just list several scriptures references for people to look up and read on their own time. After I list the following scriptures, below, I will mention another point about the great white throne of judgement and the throne of God.
Revelation Chapter 4: Verses 2-11;
Revelation Chapter 5: Verses 1-14(the whole chapter);
Revelation Chapter 19: Verses 4-9;
Revelation Chapter 22: Verses 1-2;
Okay, I want to bring out a point here concerning the above list of scriptures from Revelation. If you look at those scriptures, it can be seen that there is something good happening around or at the throne of God in those scriptures. There is plenty of worship to God at the throne of God. With that said, those events with the beasts, and the 24 elders and angels are different from the event involving the great white throne of judgement. That is important to note. In other words, it is NOT all doom and gloom around God's throne.
The scriptures does not say specifically if the throne of God in Revelation chapters 4, 5 19 and 22, is the same throne as the "GREAT WHITE THRONE" in Revelation chapter 20, or if those thrones are different. I believe that it is possibly a different throne, that God, the Father sits on, from the great white throne, based upon the description of the environment around the other throne with the rainbow, red and green colors, thundering and lightning, and other things and people worshipping around this other throne.
So, to me reading those other scriptures from Revelation describing the throne of God and events and objects around the throne makes me believe that God has a least two different thrones. If He does not have two different thrones, then He has one throne that is interchangeable depending on the event that is taking place.
The reason why I bring that up, is because there are some preachers who discourage people from seeking to be with God at His throne. These preachers are doing that, because they are assuming that God is only sitting on a great white throne ready to judge people on the spot always, at any time. However, that is not true, as we have seen from, again, the above scriptures in Revelation chapters 4, 5, 19 and 22. Again if you read in those scriptures, you can see people, and angels and beasts in the presence of God, worshipping God, and other blessings happening from the throne of God, besides judgement.
People should be scared or fearful of God, and what He can do, but believers or those who have accepted Jesus Christ should seek to be worthy to be able to be in the presence of God at His throne like in those examples in Revelation. If your heart and your life is right with God, God can invite you to His throne to fellowship with Him. This is possible and has happened to people.
Coming before the throne of God is VERY serious. Again, it is still scaring and God is to be feared, but I believe if a person is pleasing God and doing His will, if they had to come before God's throne, it would be because God invites the person as a friendly guest and not to be judged. Again, coming before the throne of God for fellowship and blessings is by accepting Jesus Christ, and then afterwards being literally invited. Even for believers in Jesus Christ, you still must be invited to God's throne, or you can not go there. God is loving, but He is ALSO HOLY, GREAT AND TERRIBLE IN POWER and no flesh can stand it. I will be back next time with a related topic.
Continuing from pt. I, I was discussing the two mysteries surrounding the great white throne of judgement. I talked about that it appears that no one knows where the throne will be located or the actual place where judgement day takes place. Then I mentioned that, contrary to what many believe, Jesus Christ may be the one sitting on the great white throne of judgement doing the judging on Judgement Day.
I said, in this part II, I would provide the scripture, which some scholars believe, shows that Jesus Christ will be the ultimate one who will judge mankind on judgement day.
Scripture Reference St. John Chapter 5: Verse 22; "For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgement unto the Son:"
That scripture from St. John 5:22 does not specifically mention Judgement Day, but some in the Christian field believe that because Jesus Christ says in that scripture of St. John 5:22, that the Father judgeth no man, but committed ALL judgement unto the Son, that Jesus is implying that He will be the ultimate judge of mankind even on Judgement day.
However, even though Jesus made the statement of ALL judgement being committed to Him, I still have some reason to believe that it could be the Father in Heaven who will judge on Judgement Day. That is not to take anything away from Jesus. This is all speculative on my part, and others. I think it is interesting though.
The reason why I believe the Judge, sitting on the great white throne of judgemnt is the Father, is because in Revelation, when it describes who is sitting on throne, as him whose face the earth and the heaven fled away, really looks to me to be a description of the Father. From my research, through other instances in the bible, and testimonies from people who have been to Heaven, and seen God, the Father, but was NOT able to see his face, because of the infinite power coming from God, that is why I think in Revelation 20:11, it is talking about the Father.
People have been able to see Jesus Christ face and be physically close to Jesus. Some people could not see Jesus face, but I have reason to believe if someone could not see Jesus face, that that Jesus may have been an imposter. Scripturally, it has been documented that men could look on Jesus and see his face. However, scripturally, no man could look at the face of God and live, because of the power of God is so strong. Those consistencies still should hold true, unless the Father decides He wants to reveal his face to someone. The point being, that men was always able to look at Jesus Christ's face.
Again, I am speculating above, and Jesus Christ can still be the appointed judge. There are two other sections of scripture, that I have not heard anyone bring up in relation to Jesus being the judge on Judgement Day. However, Jesus seems to hint that He could be the one, further in the same St. John Chapter 5, and on another occassion in the scriptures. Those scriptures are from St. Matthew Chapter 25: Verses 31 through 46; and again in St. John Chapter 5: Verses 25 through 29. In those scriptures Jesus refers to Himself as the Son of Man and the Son of God as the person judging all these people; and so the Son of, is a clear distinction from the Father, God.
Also too, God may have another way by which He or the Son does it. There is also something that is called the Judgement Seat of Christ. Which, is for believers or saints and is SEPERATE FROM the great white throne of judgement and Judgement Day. I will come back to talking about that along with Judgement Day a few posts down the way.
Now here I want to just list several scriptures references for people to look up and read on their own time. After I list the following scriptures, below, I will mention another point about the great white throne of judgement and the throne of God.
Revelation Chapter 4: Verses 2-11;
Revelation Chapter 5: Verses 1-14(the whole chapter);
Revelation Chapter 19: Verses 4-9;
Revelation Chapter 22: Verses 1-2;
Okay, I want to bring out a point here concerning the above list of scriptures from Revelation. If you look at those scriptures, it can be seen that there is something good happening around or at the throne of God in those scriptures. There is plenty of worship to God at the throne of God. With that said, those events with the beasts, and the 24 elders and angels are different from the event involving the great white throne of judgement. That is important to note. In other words, it is NOT all doom and gloom around God's throne.
The scriptures does not say specifically if the throne of God in Revelation chapters 4, 5 19 and 22, is the same throne as the "GREAT WHITE THRONE" in Revelation chapter 20, or if those thrones are different. I believe that it is possibly a different throne, that God, the Father sits on, from the great white throne, based upon the description of the environment around the other throne with the rainbow, red and green colors, thundering and lightning, and other things and people worshipping around this other throne.
So, to me reading those other scriptures from Revelation describing the throne of God and events and objects around the throne makes me believe that God has a least two different thrones. If He does not have two different thrones, then He has one throne that is interchangeable depending on the event that is taking place.
The reason why I bring that up, is because there are some preachers who discourage people from seeking to be with God at His throne. These preachers are doing that, because they are assuming that God is only sitting on a great white throne ready to judge people on the spot always, at any time. However, that is not true, as we have seen from, again, the above scriptures in Revelation chapters 4, 5, 19 and 22. Again if you read in those scriptures, you can see people, and angels and beasts in the presence of God, worshipping God, and other blessings happening from the throne of God, besides judgement.
People should be scared or fearful of God, and what He can do, but believers or those who have accepted Jesus Christ should seek to be worthy to be able to be in the presence of God at His throne like in those examples in Revelation. If your heart and your life is right with God, God can invite you to His throne to fellowship with Him. This is possible and has happened to people.
Coming before the throne of God is VERY serious. Again, it is still scaring and God is to be feared, but I believe if a person is pleasing God and doing His will, if they had to come before God's throne, it would be because God invites the person as a friendly guest and not to be judged. Again, coming before the throne of God for fellowship and blessings is by accepting Jesus Christ, and then afterwards being literally invited. Even for believers in Jesus Christ, you still must be invited to God's throne, or you can not go there. God is loving, but He is ALSO HOLY, GREAT AND TERRIBLE IN POWER and no flesh can stand it. I will be back next time with a related topic.
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